Ego State Therapy Interventions to
Prepare Your Most Wounded, Dysregulated,
and Dissociative Clients for EMDR

This workshop teaches fundamental client-stabilization
interventions. All therapists are welcome to attend.

Presentation by Amy Blake, LCSW


Four Consecutive Fridays

Jan 21, 28, Feb 4, 11, 2022

11:00 AM – 3:30 PM US Eastern Time
10:00 AM – 2:30 PM US Central Time
9:00 AM – 1:30 PM US Mountain Time
8:00 AM – 12:30 PM US Pacific Time

16 Professional CEs and 16 EMDRIA Credits

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Have you ever struggled to prepare very wounded clients for EMDR? Have you ever been surprised when EMDR didn’t help, or actually made symptoms worse? If so, this webinar is for you. Our most dysregulated, dissociative clients have wounded parts of self that are stuck in the past. Because these wounded parts are easily triggered, they keep clients in a perpetual state of overwhelm — putting safe and effective EMDR out of reach. This webinar will lay out a systematic way to prepare clients for EMDR — a detailed road map for improving emotion regulation.

It will start by illuminating important differences between foundational stability and foundational instability. It will distinguish trauma wounds from attachment wounds and explain why that distinction matters. It will cover ego state therapy interventions from Shirley Jean Schmidt’s Developmental Needs Meeting Strategy that are highly effective at stabilizing dissociated parts of self. This webinar will show how to…

  •   take a childhood attachment history
  •   quickly and effectively mobilize a team of vetted Resources
  •   establish a Special Safe Place (a fun place for wounded parts to hang out)
  •   identify therapy goals that can actually block processing
  •   set an effective therapy goal – free of blocks
  •   invite wounded parts forward
  •   start a dialogue with wounded parts
  •   encourage wounded parts to tell their story
  •   attune, validate, and empathize with wounded parts
  •   build rapport with especially belligerent and oppositional parts
  •   give wounded parts missing information, and clear any misunderstandings
  •   connect wounded parts to a loving, supportive team of Resources
  •   orient wounded parts to present time
  •   enable wounded parts to see reality more clearly
  •   show wounded parts they’re overreacting to harmless recordings

Collectively these interventions can stabilize dysregulated, dissociated, wounded parts. As more and more parts are stabilized, clients get triggered less often. When triggered, there is lower intensity and faster recovery. This improvement in emotion regulation can prepare clients for safe and effective EMDR trauma processing. Upon completing the training, attendees should be able to apply these interventions with clients. Attendees will get a 66-page handout (a condensed version of the entire presentation), including three pages of answers to frequently asked questions. In addition, attendees will be given online access to 22 pages of checklists, worksheets, and a history-taking questionnaire.

Click here to see the training agenda and learning objectives.

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Target Audience

This workshop will be helpful for all mental health professionals who work with clients wounded in childhood (psychologists, counselors, social workers, and LMFTs, etc.)–whether trained in EMDR or not. While this is NOT an EMDR training per se, EMDR therapists will learn how to use these interventions to prepare fragile, wounded, dissociative clients for EMDR. This is officially an Intermediate Level training. But it will teach stabilizing ego state therapy interventions informative to all skill levels.

About the Presenter

Amy Blake, LCSW has a private practice in Maine. She specializes in Relationship Therapy and in treating attachment wounding and trauma. She has trained in and worked with the DNMS since 2013. She has trained in and uses EMDR, Accelerated Resolution Therapy, Grove Metaphor Therapy and clinical hypnosis in her work with individuals. For more information about Amy, visit her website.

Webinar Dates & Times

The webinar will go from 11:00 AM to 3:30 PM US Eastern time, each day. Login starts a half hour early. If you’re outside the US Eastern time zone, click here to look up the start time for your area. Type into the blue box a big city in your time zone.

Workshop Cost

Early Registration: On or before Friday, January 14 US$375.

Late Registration: On or after Saturday, January 15 US$400.

Group Discount: Three or more therapists can register together and take a US$25/person discount. Email Amy Blake the following information on each attendee: Name (as it should appear on the CE certificate), License, License #, Address, Cell phone #, and Email address. She will email you a Coupon Code that can be applied in a single group payment.

Student Discount: If you’re a graduate student or intern on track to become a licensed psychotherapist, you can get a US$50 discount. Email proof of your student status to Amy Blake and she’ll email a Coupon Code to use when you register.

Agency Discount: If you work 30+ hours a week for a non-profit agency, you can get a US$50 discount. Email proof of your agency work to Amy Blake and she’ll email a Coupon Code to use when you register.

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Attendance Information

This meeting will be delivered online via Zoom from Maine, US. A few days before the webinar, we’ll email everyone information to access the handout and join the meeting. To get a certificate of completion, all four sessions must be attended. After the webinar, we’ll email a link to an online evaluation form. After you complete the evaluation, you’ll be able to download your certificate. This webinar will not be recorded. If you want the flexibility of watching a pre-recorded presentation at your convenience, check out this on-demand webinar.

Continuing Education Credit

EMDRIA Credits

This workshop is approved by EMDRIA for 16 EMDRIA Credits (approval # 17008-27). (While this is NOT an EMDR training per se, it can help therapists prepare clients for EMDR.) Eligibility for EMDRIA Credits is restricted to those who have completed an EMDRIA-Approved Basic EMDR Training. Shirley Jean Schmidt (EC Provider #17008) maintains responsibility for this program and its content, in accordance with EMDRIA standards.

Professional CEs

This DNMS Institute training is cosponsored by the Institute on Violence, Abuse, and Trauma (IVAT), based in San Diego, CA.

Social Workers: The DNMS Institute, LLC, #1702, is approved as a provider for social work continuing education by the Association of Social Work Boards (ASWB), through the Approved Continuing Education (ACE) program. The DNMS Institute, LLC maintains responsibility for the program. ASWB Approval Period: 9/27/2019-9/27/2022. Click here to see if social workers in your state are covered. Social workers participating in this course will receive 16 continuing education clock hours.

Psychologists (except for New York): The Institute on Violence, Abuse, and Trauma (IVAT) is approved by the American Psychological Association (APA) to sponsor continuing education for psychologists. Psychologists will receive 16 hours of continuing education credit upon completing this program.

California Board of Behavioral Sciences (BBS) now accepts American Psychological Association continuing education credit for license renewal. LCSWs, LMFTs, LPCCs, and LEPs will receive 16 hours of continuing education credit upon completing this program.

Counselors: LPCs, LCPCs, MHCs, and LMHCs will receive 16 CEs in states where any scope-of-practice continuing education is accepted, or where continuing education from American Psychological Association or ASWB ACE providers is accepted. Policies vary from state to state and can change year to year. Please check your state licensing board rules to determine if you’re covered.

Marriage & Family Therapists: LMFTs will receive 16 CEs in states where any scope-of-practice continuing education is accepted, or where continuing education from American Psychological Association or ASWB ACE providers is accepted. Policies vary from state to state and can change year to year. Please check your state licensing board rules to determine if you’re covered.

Nurses (except for Iowa): IVAT is approved by the California Board of Registered Nurses to offer continuing education for California nurses (CEP #13737). As an approved provider of American Psychological Association CEs, IVAT programs are accepted by the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC). Nurses will receive 16 hours of continuing education credit upon completing this program.

Addictions Counselors: IVAT is approved by the California Consortium of Addiction Programs and Professionals (CCAPP) to sponsor continuing education for certified alcohol and drug abuse counselors (Provider #IS-03-499-0223). Addictions Counselors licensed in California will receive 16 hours of continuing education credit upon completing this program.

Contact Information

For questions about the content of the training, email Amy Blake. For questions about registering for this training, call or email the DNMS Institute at 210-561-7881 or

Workshop Cancellation Policy

If you register then need to cancel, call or email the DNMS Institute, to let us know. We will issue you a full refund minus a US$25 processing fee. Reach us at 210-561-7881 or

Grievance Policy

The DNMS Institute will make every attempt to resolve grievances in a fair manner. Participants who are unhappy about the content of the workshop, or have any other grievances, should contact us. Click here to read about our Grievance Policy & Procedure.

Accommodations for the Differently Abled

The DNMS Institute aims to ensure that all trainings are handicap accessible. Participants who need special accommodations, should call or email the DNMS Institute at 210-561-7881 or

There is no known commercial support nor conflict of interest for this program. Click here for a list of peer-reviewed research studies that document the effectiveness of this approach.

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Marlene Steinberg, MD
Author, “The Stranger in the Mirror”
and “The Structured Clinical Interview
for Dissociative Disorders (SCID-D)”

“This training is an excellent resource for EMDR therapists working with clients who have experienced trauma and attachment wounds. This training is filled with practical techniques grounded in ego state theory for working compassionately with clients. Whether you are a mental health trainee or a more experienced EMDR professional, I would recommend this training.”

Yvette Goldurs, LISW-S
Certified EMDR Therapist

“I have been searching for years to find the best way to help prepare my clients for EMDR processing. After utilizing the information in this training, I no longer need to search. The information is practical and user friendly, and I was able to integrate the techniques immediately with incredible results. The information is especially helpful for clients who have early attachment trauma, where they have an underdeveloped AIP system, thus stalling EMDR processing. It was amazing watching clients calm and settle back into themselves–I watched their AIP grow right in front of me. I can’t express how truly amazingly this training has affected my practice.”

Annemarie Husser, LCPC
Certified EMDR Therapist

“After taking this training, I feel fully prepared to use EMDR with adult clients who suffer from childhood trauma. I learned simple interventions to stabilize wounded child parts before beginning EMDR, to reduce overwhelm, flooding, and negative abreactions. I immediately began using them with positive results for the clients, and a boost of confidence in my own abilities to fully prepare them before processing. I can highly recommend this workshop!”

Ilyssa Swartout, PsyD
EMDRIA-Approved Consultant

“I can unequivocally recommend this training! It’s one of the best I’ve taken in many years. I could immediately apply what I learned with my clients. If you need help with highly reactive clients who are not ready for EMDR reprocessing, you’ll want to take this training.”

Mary Ann McGrath, LCSW
EMDR Therapist

“I highly recommend this training, particularly as it teaches skills and strategies to stabilize clients so that they will be safely available for EMDR trauma processing. Since taking this training, I feel much more confident in working with clients with attachment issues and feel I have tools to address their needs.”

Kristin Pryor, LCPC

“This training immediately enhanced my work with my wounded and traumatized clients. I was much more confident, at the ready with new and easy to implement interventions, and unshaken by processing blocks that would have totally stumped me in the past. As a result, my clients experience more immediate and profound relief.”