Ego State Therapy Interventions to
Prepare Your Most Wounded, Belligerent,
and Dissociative Clients for EMDR

This workshop teaches fundamental client-stabilization
interventions. All therapists are welcome to attend.

Presentation by Karen Gardner, LCSW
EMDRIA-Approved Consultant


August 21-22, 2020   —   Orem, Utah

13 Professional CEs and 13 EMDRIA Credits

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Clients need to trust they’ll have a safe experience and get the best possible outcomes with their EMDR therapy. When treating clients with dissociative disorders and profound emotional wounding in childhood, this can be a challenge to deliver. As long as clients have fears about healing that block therapy, have belligerent child parts that sabotage therapy, or are so easily triggered they cannot tolerate trauma processing, the benefits of EMDR will be out of reach. This workshop teaches a systematic, comprehensive, Phase 2 preparation plan to resolve these problems and more. It involves direct communication with individual wounded child parts connected to a past, present, or future EMDR target. Once a targeted wounded child part has met specific benchmarks of stabilization and emotion regulation, Phase 3 on that target can begin. The workshop will illuminate the differences between trauma wounds and attachment wounds. It will provide an introduction to ego state theory, an explanation of Memory Reconsolidation Theory, and a review of Shapiro’s Adaptive Information Processing (AIP) model. In addition, this workshop will explore the challenges and limitations of treating attachment-wounded clients with EMDR. It will equip you with many innovative stabilization interventions not taught anywhere else. This workshop will describe how to…

  •   quickly and effectively mobilize a team of vetted Resources
  •   establish a Special Safe Place (a fun place for wounded parts to hang out)
  •   identify therapy goals that can actually block processing
  •   set an effective therapy goal – free of blocks
  •   invite wounded parts forward
  •   start a dialogue with wounded parts
  •   attune, validate, and empathize with wounded parts
  •   build rapport with especially belligerent and oppositional parts
  •   give wounded parts missing information, and clear any misunderstandings
  •   connect wounded parts to a loving, supportive team of Resources
  •   orient wounded parts to present time
  •   enable wounded parts to see reality more clearly
  •   show wounded parts that the upsetting experience they seem to be reliving, is actually just a harmless recording

Upon completing the training, you should be able to apply these interventions with clients, using the scripts provided in the colorful 34-page handout. Click here to see the training agenda and learning objectives.

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Target Audience

This workshop will be helpful for all mental health professionals who work with clients wounded in childhood (psychologists, counselors, social workers, and LMFTs, etc.)—whether trained in EMDR or not. While this is NOT an EMDR training per se, EMDR therapists will learn how to use these interventions to prepare fragile, wounded, dissociative clients for EMDR. It will teach stabilizing ego state therapy interventions informative to all skill levels, including beginner, intermediate, and advanced.

About the Presenter

Karen Gardner is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and an EMDRIA-approved Consultant in private practice in Provo, Utah. Karen specializes in treating trauma and dissociation with EMDR and DNMS. She has treated hundreds of clients using DNMS and seen first-hand, the powerful healing it can bring. Karen is a delightful presenter and passionate about sharing the success she’s seen in her private practice with other therapists. For more information about Karen, visit her website at:

Workshop Dates & Times

The workshop will be held Friday-Saturday, August 21-22, 2020.

Friday: Sign-in begins at 9:30 am. Presentation from 10:00-6:00.

Saturday: Sign-in begins at 8:30 am. Presentation from 9:00-5:00.

Workshop Cost

Early Registration: Register on or before August 14 for $350.

Late Registration: Register on or after August 15 for $375.

Group Discount: Three or more therapists can register together and take a $25/person discount. Email Karen Gardner the following information on each attendee: Name (as it should appear on the CE certificate), License, License #, Address, Cell phone #, and Email address. Karen will email you a Coupon Code that can be applied in a single group payment.

Student Discount: If you’re a graduate student or intern on track to become a licensed psychotherapist, you can get a $50 discount. Email proof of your student status to Karen Gardner and she’ll email a Coupon Code to use when you register.

Agency Discount: If you work 30+ hours a week for a non-profit agency, you can get a $50 discount. Email proof of your agency work to Karen Gardner and she’ll email a Coupon Code to use when you register.

Webinar-Subscriber Discount: If you’re subscribed to the 10-hour webinar version of this training, you’re eligible for a discount. To find out how much, email us at

Workshop Cancellation Policy

If you register then need to cancel, call or email the DNMS Institute, to let us know.
210-561-7881 or
We will issue you a full refund minus a $35 processing fee.

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Workshop Location

Towneplace Suites by Marriott
873 North 1200 West
Orem, UT 84057

This workshop is held in facilities in accordance with the Americans with Disabilities Act. If you need special accommodations to attend the workshop, call or email Karen Gardner at 801-867-2478 or

Overnight Accommodations

Workshop attendees staying at the Towneplace Suites by Marriott can reserve a king room for $94/night. When you call 801-225-4477 to place your reservation, mention the DNMS Training room block. Reservation includes a modest ‘bag-breakfast.’ Room has a refrigerator, microwave, and free WiFi. Parking is free. In walking distance of fast food restaurants and a grocery store.

Air Travel

The Provo Airport (PVU) is a small regional airport near Oren, which is served by Allegiant Air. It’s a 15 minute drive to the hotel. The Salt Lake City International Airport (SLC) is served by most major airlines. It’s a 45 minute drive to the hotel.

Continuing Education Credit

EMDRIA Credits

This workshop is approved by EMDRIA for 13 EMDRIA Credits (approval # 17008-14). (While this is NOT an EMDR training per se, it can help therapists prepare clients for EMDR.) Eligibility for EMDRIA Credits is restricted to those who have completed an EMDRIA-Approved Basic EMDR Training. Shirley Jean Schmidt (EC Provider #17008) maintains responsibility for this program and its content, in accordance with EMDRIA standards.

Professional CEs

Social Workers: The DNMS Institute, LLC, #1702, is approved as a provider for social work continuing education by the Association of Social Work Boards (ASWB), through the Approved Continuing Education (ACE) program. The DNMS Institute, LLC maintains responsibility for the program. ASWB Approval Period: 9/27/2019-9/27/2022. Social workers should contact their regulatory board to determine course approval for continuing education credits. Social workers participating in this course will receive 13 continuing education clock hours.

Counselors: LPCs, LCPCs, MHCs, and LMHCs will receive 13 CEs in states where any scope-of-practice continuing education is accepted, or where continuing education from ASWB ACE providers is accepted. Policies vary from state to state and can change year to year. Please check your state licensing board rules to determine if you’re covered.

Marriage & Family Therapists: LMFTs will receive 13 CEs in states where any scope-of-practice continuing education is accepted, or where continuing education from ASWB ACE providers is accepted. Policies vary from state to state and can change year to year. Please check your state licensing board rules to determine if you’re covered.

Contact Information

For questions about this training, call or email Karen Gardner at 801-867-2478 or

For questions about registering for this training, call or email the DNMS Institute at 210-561-7881 or

Grievance Policy

The DNMS Institute will make every attempt to resolve grievances in a fair manner. Participants who are unhappy about the content of the workshop, or have any other grievances, should contact us. Click here to read about our Grievance Policy & Procedure.

Accommodations for the Differently Abled

Participants who need special accommodations, should call or email Karen Gardner at 801-867-2478 or

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Click Here to Read About
the On-Demand Webinar
Version of this Training

Marlene Steinberg, MD
Author, “The Stranger in the Mirror”
and “The Structured Clinical Interview
for Dissociative Disorders (SCID-D)”

“This training is an excellent resource for EMDR therapists working with clients who have experienced trauma and attachment wounds. This training is filled with practical techniques grounded in ego state theory for

working compassionately with clients. Whether you are a mental health trainee or a more experienced EMDR professional, I would recommend this training .”

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Yvette Goldurs, LISW-S
Certified EMDR Therapist

“I have been searching for years to find the best way to help prepare my clients for EMDR processing. After utilizing the information in this training, I no longer need to search.

The information is practical and user friendly, and I was able to integrate the techniques immediately with incredible results. The information is especially helpful for clients who have early attachment trauma, where they have an underdeveloped AIP system, thus stalling EMDR processing. It was amazing watching clients calm and settle back into themselves–I watched their AIP grow right in front of me. I can’t express how truly amazingly this training has affected my practice.”

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Annemarie Husser, LCPC
Certified EMDR Therapist

“After taking this training, I feel fully prepared to use EMDR with adult clients who suffer from childhood trauma. I learned simple interventions

to stabilize wounded child parts before beginning EMDR, to reduce overwhelm, flooding, and negative abreactions. I immediately began using them with positive results for the clients, and a boost of confidence in my own abilities to fully prepare them before processing. I can highly recommend this workshop!”

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Ilyssa Swartout, PsyD
EMDRIA-Approved Consultant

“I can unequivocally recommend this training! It’s one of the best I’ve taken in many years. I could immediately apply what I learned with my clients.

If you need help with highly reactive clients who are not ready for EMDR reprocessing, you’ll want to take this training.”

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Mary Ann McGrath, LCSW
EMDR Therapist

“I highly recommend this training, particularly as it teaches skills and strategies to stabilize clients so that they will be safely available for EMDR

trauma processing. Since taking this training, I feel much more confident in working with clients with attachment issues and feel I have tools to address their needs.”

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Kristin Pryor, LCPC

“This training immediately enhanced my work with my wounded and traumatized clients. I was much more confident, at the ready with new and

easy to implement interventions, and unshaken by processing blocks that would have totally stumped me in the past. As a result, my clients experience more immediate and profound relief.”

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