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Ego State Therapy Interventions to
Prepare Your Most Wounded, Belligerent,
and Dissociative Clients for EMDR

10-Hour On-Demand Webinar

10 CEs & 10 EMDRIA Credits Included

Clients need to trust they’ll have a safe experience and get the best possible outcomes with their EMDR therapy. When treating clients with dissociative disorders and profound emotional wounding in childhood, this can be a challenge to deliver. As long as clients have fears about healing that block therapy, have belligerent child parts that sabotage therapy, or are so easily triggered they cannot tolerate trauma processing, the benefits of EMDR will be out of reach. This webinar teaches a systematic, comprehensive, Phase 2 preparation plan to resolve these problems and more. It involves direct communication with individual wounded child parts connected to a past, present, or future EMDR target. Once a targeted wounded child part has met specific benchmarks of stabilization and emotion regulation, Phase 3 on that target can begin. The webinar will illuminate the differences between trauma wounds and attachment wounds. It will provide an introduction to ego state theory, an explanation of Memory Reconsolidation Theory, and a review of Shapiro’s Adaptive Information Processing (AIP) model. In addition it will explore the challenges and limitations of treating attachment-wounded clients with EMDR. The webinar will equip you with many innovative stabilization interventions not taught anywhere else. It will detail how to…

  •   quickly and effectively mobilize a team of vetted Resources
  •   establish a Special Safe Place (a fun place for wounded parts to hang out)
  •   identify therapy goals that can actually block processing
  •   set an effective therapy goal – free of blocks
  •   invite wounded parts forward
  •   start a dialogue with wounded parts
  •   attune, validate, and empathize with wounded parts
  •   build rapport with especially belligerent and oppositional parts
  •   give wounded parts missing information, and clear any misunderstandings
  •   connect wounded parts to a loving, supportive team of Resources
  •   orient wounded parts to present time
  •   enable wounded parts to see reality more clearly
  •   show wounded parts that the upsetting experience they seem to be reliving, is actually just a harmless recording

Clinicians taking the webinar should be able to start using these interventions right away with the scripts provided. The webinar also explains how these interventions track with Porges’ Polyvagal theory and Dan Siegel’s parenting advice. Click here for a webinar topic outline and learning objectives.

Plus You Get a Second Bonus Webinar!

This webinar comes with a FREE three-month preview subscription to our self-help webinar: How to Calm Your Sudden Surges of Overwhelming Painful Emotions. Use it on yourself, review it for clients, or show it to clients in session. Clients who want one, can get their own personal subscription.

Webinar Presenter

Shirley Jean Schmidt, MA is a Licensed Professional Counselor, the founder of the DNMS Institute, and the author of two DNMS books. She has trained hundreds of clinicians in the DNMS model at regional, national, and international workshops and conferences since 2002. She moderates a 800-member DNMS professional listserv. She is a past president of the San Antonio Trauma & Dissociation Professional Study Group. For six years, she was an EMDRIA-Approved EMDR Consultant. She has published many articles about EMDR, ego state therapy, pain management, and the DNMS. She holds the patent on the TheraTapper™, a bilateral tactile stimulation device that has been sold worldwide to DNMS and EMDR therapists. She narrates the slide shows and is the therapist in all the demo videos.

Webinar Format

The webinar is pre-recorded. It’s delivered on-line in 24 segments, consisting of 18 narrated slide shows plus 6 video recordings of real sessions. Audio recordings of each segment are also provided. Most segments are under 30 minutes, for a total of 10 hours of viewing and assignments. Watch (or listen) to the slideshows and videos whenever you want, in whatever order you wish, as many times as you like. Start and stop wherever you like. The slide shows are colorful, animated and fun. The videotaped demo sessions are very high quality. It comes with a colorful 28-page handout you can download and print.

You can watch 3 webinar excerpts here – a 24-minute sampling:

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Frequently Asked Questions

If I subscribe to the webinar, how long will I have access to it?
There’s no time limit. Access it as long as you have an internet connection.

Is this material taught in a live training?
Click here to see if there is a live training or webinar of this material currently scheduled.

I’d like to watch this with my colleagues. Can we all get CEs for watching it?
No. You’re welcome to sit with colleagues to watch the webinar together, but we only authorize one CE Certificate per webinar subscriber.

May I share my username and password with colleagues so they can watch the webinar without me?
No. Sharing your username and password with anyone is not permitted, and may result in subscription termination.

May I share the webinar handout with my colleagues?
The handout is for the subscriber only. Distribution of the handout to others is not permitted, with one exception – the single-page Self-Soothing handout for clients may be printed and given to clients.

Do you offer a special clinic price or group rate?
As long as we are offering 40% off, we are not offering group discounts.

Can I get a copy of the webinar PowerPoint slides?
No, but the companion book, Ego State Therapy Interventions to Prepare Attachment-Wounded Adults for EMDR, provides a written reference for all the information in this webinar and much more.

Will you ever post an updated webinar handout?
Yes. From time to time we may update the handout. Subscribers should occasionally check for an update.

Can I get EMDRIA Credits for completing this webinar?
Yes. See Continuing Education Credit information below.

How do I get the CEs?
When you finish watching the webinar and filling out the on-line evaluation, you’ll be directed to a post-test. When you pass the post-test with 75% or more correct, you’ll be able to instantly download your certificate of completion.

Is the test difficult?
Short T/F quizzes throughout the webinar focus attention on the most important concepts. So long as you can answer these quiz questions, you’ll have no problem passing the post-test. If you fail the post-test, you can take it again and again, until you pass it.

Are the interventions taught in the webinar evidence-based?
Click here for a list of peer-reviewed research studies that document the effectiveness of this approach.

Have more questions?
Email questions about webinar content to Shirley Jean at sjs@dnmsinstitute.com. Email all other questions to dnms@dnmsinstitute.com.

Demo Videos

Embedded in the webinar are videos of real sessions—some with Laura and some with Deb. The 2 long Laura videos are part of a 7-video series. All the videos in this series are available to watch. Read more here.

Target Audience

This webinar has been developed for Mental Health Professionals (Social Workers, Psychologists, LMFTs, etc.) who are trained in EMDR, and work with clients wounded in childhood. It contains Beginning, Intermediate, and Advanced Level content.

Continuing Education Credit

EMDRIA Credits

This webinar is approved for 10 EMDRIA Credits (#17008-03). (While this is NOT an EMDR training per se, it can help therapists prepare clients for EMDR.) Eligibility for EMDRIA Credits is restricted to those who have completed an EMDRIA-Approved Basic EMDR Training. Shirley Jean Schmidt (EC Provider #17008) maintains responsibility for this program and its content, in accordance with EMDRIA standards.

Professional CEs

Psychologists: Commonwealth Educational Seminars is approved by the American Psychological Association (APA) to sponsor continuing education for psychologists. Commonwealth Educational Seminars maintains responsibility for this program and its content. Psychologists will receive 10 hours of continuing education credit upon completing this program.

Social Workers: The DNMS Institute, LLC, #1702, is approved as a provider for social work continuing education by the Association of Social Work Boards (ASWB) www.aswb.org, through the Approved Continuing Education (ACE) program. The DNMS Institute, LLC maintains responsibility for the program. ASWB Approval Period: 9/27/2019-9/27/2022. Social workers should contact their regulatory board to determine course approval for continuing education credits. Social workers participating in this course will receive 10 continuing education clock hours.
New York SWs: Commonwealth Educational Seminars is recognized by the New York State Education Department’s State Board for Social Work as an approved provider of continuing education for licensed social workers #SW-0444. Social workers licensed in New York will receive 10 hours of continuing education credit upon completing this program.

Counselors: LPCs, LCPCs, MHCs, and LMHCs will receive 10 CEs in states where scope-of-practice continuing education is accepted, or where continuing education from ASWB ACE providers is accepted. Policies vary from state to state and can change year to year. Please check your state licensing board rules to determine if you’re covered.

Marriage & Family Therapists: LMFTs will receive 10 CEs in states where scope-of-practice continuing education is accepted, or where continuing education from ASWB ACE providers is accepted. Policies vary from state to state and can change year to year. Please check your state licensing board rules to determine if you’re covered.

Grievance Policy

The DNMS Institute will make every attempt to resolve grievances in a fair manner. Subscribers who are unhappy about the content of the webinar, have technical issues watching the webinar, or have any other grievances, should contact us. Click here to read about our Grievance Policy & Procedure.

Accommodations for the Differently Abled

Subscribers who need special accommodations to watch the webinar, should call or email us at 210-561-7881 or dnms@dnmsinstitute.com.

There is no known commercial support nor conflict of interest for this program.

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Marlene Steinberg, MD
Author, “The Stranger in the Mirror”
and “The Structured Clinical Interview
for Dissociative Disorders (SCID-D)”

“This training is an excellent resource for EMDR therapists working with clients who have experienced trauma and attachment wounds. This training is filled with practical techniques grounded in ego state theory for working compassionately with clients. Whether you are a mental health trainee or a more experienced EMDR professional, I would recommend this training.”

Ross Cohen, MA, LPC
EMDRIA-Approved Consultant
and EMDR Facilitator

“I’ve been studying the DNMS for close to 10 years and have found it to be a very powerful therapy, especially for healing attachment wounds. As an EMDR therapist and EMDRIA Approved Consultant, I’ve found the DNMS Webinars for EMDR clinicians to be excellent. I would recommend them to any EMDR therapist. For clinicians interested in developing their ego state therapy skills, the DNMS has a tremendous amount to offer.”

Lauren Walker, LCSW
Certified EMDR Therapist

“Probably one of the most important trainings I’ve taken since becoming licensed. I have initiated this with several clients and it is amazing how quickly they respond where they once were stuck. DNMS makes sense for clients, and provides a window into their world of conflict and distress. Once they meet a part, they are so relieved and feel validated.”

Yvette Goldurs, LISW-S
Certified EMDR Therapist

“I have been searching for years to find the best way to help prepare my clients for EMDR processing. After utilizing the information in this training, I no longer need to search. The information is practical and user friendly, and I was able to integrate the techniques immediately with incredible results. The information is especially helpful for clients who have early attachment trauma, where they have an underdeveloped AIP system, thus stalling EMDR processing. It was amazing watching clients calm and settle back into themselves–I watched their AIP grow right in front of me. I can’t express how truly amazingly this training has affected my practice.”

Annemarie Husser, LCPC
Certified EMDR Therapist

“After taking this training, I feel fully prepared to use EMDR with adult clients who suffer from childhood trauma. I learned simple interventions to stabilize wounded child parts before beginning EMDR, to reduce overwhelm, flooding, and negative abreactions. I immediately began using them with positive results for the clients, and a boost of confidence in my own abilities to fully prepare them before processing. I can highly recommend this workshop!”

Ilyssa Swartout, PsyD
EMDRIA-Approved Consultant

“I can unequivocally recommend this training! It’s one of the best I’ve taken in many years. I could immediately apply what I learned with my clients. If you need help with highly reactive clients who are not ready for EMDR reprocessing, you’ll want to take this training.”

Mary Ann McGrath, LCSW
EMDR Therapist

“I highly recommend this training, particularly as it teaches skills and strategies to stabilize clients so that they will be safely available for EMDR trauma processing. Since taking this training, I feel much more confident in working with clients with attachment issues and feel I have tools to address their needs.”

Kristin Pryor, LCPC

“This training immediately enhanced my work with my wounded and traumatized clients. I was much more confident, at the ready with new and easy to implement interventions, and unshaken by processing blocks that would have totally stumped me in the past. As a result, my clients experience more immediate and profound relief.”