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Ego State Therapy Interventions to
Prepare Your Most Wounded, Belligerent,
and Dissociative Clients for EMDR

10-Hour, On-Demand Webinar

10 CEs & 10 EMDRIA Credits Included

Clients need to trust they’ll have a safe experience and get the best possible outcomes with their EMDR therapy. When treating clients with dissociative disorders and profound emotional wounding in childhood, this can be a challenge to deliver. As long as clients have fears about healing that block therapy, have belligerent child parts that sabotage therapy, or are so easily triggered they cannot tolerate trauma processing, the benefits of EMDR will be out of reach. This webinar teaches a systematic, comprehensive, Phase 2 preparation plan to resolve these problems and more. It involves direct communication with individual wounded child parts connected to a past, present, or future EMDR target. Once a targeted wounded child part has met specific benchmarks of stabilization and emotion regulation, Phase 3 on that target can begin. The webinar will illuminate the differences between trauma wounds and attachment wounds. It will provide an introduction to ego state theory, an explanation of Memory Reconsolidation Theory, and a review of Shapiro’s Adaptive Information Processing (AIP) model. In addition it will explore the challenges and limitations of treating attachment-wounded clients with EMDR. The webinar will equip you with many innovative stabilization interventions not taught anywhere else. It will detail how to…

  •   quickly and effectively mobilize a team of vetted Resources
  •   establish a Special Safe Place (a fun place for wounded parts to hang out)
  •   identify therapy goals that can actually block processing
  •   set an effective therapy goal – free of blocks
  •   invite wounded parts forward
  •   start a dialogue with wounded parts
  •   attune, validate, and empathize with wounded parts
  •   build rapport with especially belligerent and oppositional parts
  •   give wounded parts missing information, and clear any misunderstandings
  •   connect wounded parts to a loving, supportive team of Resources
  •   orient wounded parts to present time
  •   enable wounded parts to see reality more clearly
  •   show wounded parts that the upsetting experience they seem to be reliving, is actually just a harmless recording

Clinicians taking the webinar should be able to start using these interventions right away with the scripts provided. The webinar also explains how these interventions track with Porges’ Polyvagal theory and Dan Siegel’s parenting advice. Click here for a webinar topic outline and learning objectives.

Plus You Get a Second Bonus Webinar!

This webinar comes with a FREE three-month preview subscription to our self-help webinar: How to Calm Your Sudden Surges of Overwhelming Painful Emotions. Use it on yourself, review it for clients, or show it to clients in session. Clients who want one, can get their own personal subscription.

Webinar Presenter

Shirley Jean Schmidt, MA, LPC, is a Licensed Professional Counselor. She was trained in EMDR in 1995. She’s a former EMDRIA-Approved Consultant. She began integrating EMDR with ego state therapy in the late 90s – inspiring her to develop a complementary therapy approach, the Developmental Needs Meeting Strategy (DNMS). She has published many professional articles in the EMDRIA Newsletter, and given several presentations at EMDRIA conferences about integrating EMDR with ego state therapy. She holds the patent on the TheraTapper™ – an EMDR tapping device. She recently expanded her DNMS model to include these powerful stabilizing interventions. She narrates the slide shows and is the therapist in all the demo videos.

Webinar Format

The webinar is pre-recorded. It’s delivered on-line in 24 segments, consisting of 18 narrated slide shows plus 6 video recordings of real sessions. Audio recordings of each segment are also provided. Most segments are under 30 minutes, for a total of 10 hours of viewing and assignments. Watch (or listen) to the slideshows and videos whenever you want, in whatever order you wish, as many times as you like. Start and stop wherever you like. The slide shows are colorful, animated and fun. The videotaped demo sessions are very high quality. It comes with a colorful 28-page handout you can download and print.

You can watch 3 webinar excerpts here – a 24-minute sampling:

Subscribe to the Webinar

The regular webinar subscription cost is $265.00 (in US dollars). To subscribe, you’ll register and log in with a username and password, then access the webinar from My Account and My Content on the menu bar. Later, log in again to get you back to the webinar.

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Frequently Asked Questions

I’d like to watch this with my colleagues. Can we all get CEs for watching it?
No. You’re welcome to sit with colleagues to watch the webinar together, but we only authorize one CE Certificate per webinar subscriber.

May I share my username and password with colleagues so they can watch the webinar without me?
No. Sharing your username and password with anyone is not permitted, and may result in subscription termination.

May I share the webinar handout with my colleagues?
The handout is for the subscriber only. Distribution of the handout to others is not permitted, with one exception – the single-page Self-Soothing handout for clients may be printed and given to clients.

Do you offer a special clinic price or group rate?
Yes. We can offer a quantity discount for your group or clinic. Please contact us for a group quote, at sjs@dnmsinstitute.com. Tell us how many potential webinar subscribers are in your group.

Can I get a copy of the webinar PowerPoint slides?
We do not give away copies of the PowerPoint slides. But you’ll likely find the webinar handout to be a very helpful summary of the key aspects of the webinar contents – and won’t miss the PowerPoint slides.

Will you ever post an updated webinar handout?
Yes. From time to time we may update the handout. Subscribers should occasionally check for an update.

Can I get EMDRIA Credits for completing this webinar?
Yes. See Continuing Education Credit information below.

How do I get the CEs?
When you finish watching the webinar and filling out the on-line evaluation, you’ll be directed to a post-test. When you pass the post-test with 75% or more correct, you’ll be able to instantly download your certificate of completion.

Is the test difficult?
Short T/F quizzes throughout the webinar focus attention on the most important concepts. So long as you can answer these quiz questions, you’ll have no problem passing the post-test. If you fail the post-test, you can take it again and again, until you pass it.

Have more questions?
Email questions about webinar content to Shirley Jean at sjs@dnmsinstitute.com. Email all other questions to dnms@dnmsinstitute.com.

Demo Videos

Embedded in the webinar are videos of real sessions—some with Laura and some with Deb. The 2 long Laura videos are part of a 7-video series. All the videos in this series are available to watch. Read more here.

Target Audience

This webinar has been developed for Mental Health Professionals (Social Workers, Psychologists, LMFTs, etc.) who are trained in EMDR, and work with clients wounded in childhood. It contains Beginning, Intermediate, and Advanced Level content.

Continuing Education Credit

EMDRIA Credits

This webinar is approved for 10 EMDRIA Credits (#17008-03). (While this is NOT an EMDR training per se, it can help therapists prepare clients for EMDR.) Eligibility for EMDRIA Credits is restricted to those who have completed an EMDRIA-Approved Basic EMDR Training. Shirley Jean Schmidt (EC Provider #17008) maintains responsibility for this program and its content, in accordance with EMDRIA standards.

Professional CEs

Psychologists: Commonwealth Educational Seminars is approved by the American Psychological Association (APA) to sponsor continuing education for psychologists. Commonwealth Educational Seminars maintains responsibility for this program and its content. Psychologists will receive 10 hours of continuing education credit upon completing this program.

Social Workers: The DNMS Institute, LLC, #1702, is approved as a provider for social work continuing education by the Association of Social Work Boards (ASWB) www.aswb.org, through the Approved Continuing Education (ACE) program. The DNMS Institute, LLC maintains responsibility for the program. ASWB Approval Period: 9/27/2019-9/27/2022. Social workers should contact their regulatory board to determine course approval for continuing education credits. Social workers participating in this course will receive 10 continuing education clock hours.
New York SWs: Commonwealth Educational Seminars is recognized by the New York State Education Department’s State Board for Social Work as an approved provider of continuing education for licensed social workers #SW-0444. Social workers licensed in New York will receive 10 hours of continuing education credit upon completing this program.

Counselors: LPCs, LCPCs, MHCs, and LMHCs will receive 10 CEs in states where scope-of-practice continuing education is accepted, or where continuing education from ASWB ACE providers is accepted. Policies vary from state to state and can change year to year. Please check your state licensing board rules to determine if you’re covered.

Marriage & Family Therapists: LMFTs will receive 10 CEs in states where scope-of-practice continuing education is accepted, or where continuing education from ASWB ACE providers is accepted. Policies vary from state to state and can change year to year. Please check your state licensing board rules to determine if you’re covered.

Grievance Policy

The DNMS Institute will make every attempt to resolve grievances in a fair manner. Subscribers who are unhappy about the content of the webinar, have technical issues watching the webinar, or have any other grievances, should contact us. Click here to read about our Grievance Policy & Procedure.

Accommodations for the Differently Abled

Subscribers who need special accommodations to watch the webinar, should call or email us at 210-561-7881 or dnms@dnmsinstitute.com.

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Click Here to Read About
a Version of This Webinar
for Non-EMDR Therapists

Marlene Steinberg, MD
Author, “The Stranger in the Mirror”
and “The Structured Clinical Interview
for Dissociative Disorders (SCID-D)”

“This webinar is an excellent resource for EMDR therapists working with clients who have experienced trauma and attachment wounds. This training is filled with practical techniques grounded in ego state theory for

working compassionately with clients. Whether you are a mental health trainee or a more experienced EMDR professional, I would recommend this webinar.”

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Rev. Lynn James, LCPC
Certified EMDR Therapist

“This is the training I’ve spend almost 30 years looking for, since my first dissociative, dysregulated, irritable, erratic, frightening client walked in my office. Desperate to equip myself

with tools and skills to be of service to these clients, I’ve taken lots of trauma treatment trainings, including many advanced EMDR trainings aimed at stabilizing dissociative clients. And while I’ve gotten something of value from each one, something was still missing. This training fills in that missing piece. Applying the interventions taught in this webinar have given me complete confidence in my ability to stabilize dissociative clients well enough for EMDR. I know exactly what to do, and that feels great! Instead of feeling overwhelmed by my severely wounded clients, I now derive the most satisfaction from helping them. If your EMDR clients have childhood wounds, I highly recommend this training!”

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Yvette Goldurs, LISW-S
Certified EMDR Therapist

“I have been searching for years to find the best way to help prepare my clients for EMDR processing. After utilizing the information in this webinar, I no longer need to search.

The information is practical and user friendly, and I was able to integrate the techniques immediately with incredible results. The information is especially helpful for clients who have early attachment trauma, where they have an underdeveloped AIP system, thus stalling EMDR processing. It was amazing watching clients calm and settle back into themselves–I watched their AIP grow right in front of me. I can’t express how truly amazingly this training has affected my practice.”

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Karen Gardner, LCSW
Certified EMDR Therapist

“This webinar has given me the skills to handle whatever my DID clients surprise me with. A highly dissociative client recently came in with intense

resistance to therapy. I handled it easily with the webinar interventions. Now she looks forward to therapy, knowing I’ll take each of her concerns very seriously, and work through them until she’s calm and ready for EMDR processing. If you work with dissociative clients, I can highly recommend this webinar!”

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Annemarie Husser, LCPC
Certified EMDR Therapist

“After taking this training, I feel fully prepared to use EMDR with adult clients who suffer from childhood trauma. I learned simple interventions

to stabilize wounded child parts before beginning EMDR, to reduce overwhelm, flooding, and negative abreactions. I immediately began using them with positive results for the clients, and a boost of confidence in my own abilities to fully prepare them before processing. I can highly recommend this webinar!”

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Ilyssa Swartout, PsyD
EMDRIA-Approved Consultant

“I can unequivocally recommend this webinar! It’s one of the best trainings I’ve taken in many years. I could immediately apply what I learned with

my clients. If you need help with highly reactive clients who are not ready for EMDR reprocessing, you’ll want this webinar.”

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Mary Ann McGrath, LCSW
EMDR Therapist

“I highly recommend this webinar, particularly as it teaches skills and strategies to stabilize clients so that they will be safely available for EMDR

trauma processing. Since taking this training, I feel much more confident in working with clients with attachment issues and feel I have tools to address their needs.”

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Kristin Pryor, LCPC

“This training immediately enhanced my work with my wounded and traumatized clients. I was much more confident, at the ready with new and

easy to implement interventions, and unshaken by processing blocks that would have totally stumped me in the past. As a result, my clients experience more immediate and profound relief.”

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