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Developmental Needs Meeting Strategy Training

Ego State Therapy Interventions
to Stabilize Your Most Wounded,
Dysregulated, & Dissociative Clients

10-Hour, On-Demand Webinar

Get 10 Professional CEs

Many of our clients suffer from profound trauma and attachment wounds from childhood – with child ego states very stuck in the past. Therapy models that are normally effective won’t work when these clients have fears about healing that block therapy, have belligerent child parts that sabotage therapy, or are so easily triggered they cannot tolerate deep processing. This webinar resolves these problems and more. It teaches unique, powerful, simple ego state therapy interventions not taught anywhere else. You’ll learn stabilizing interventions that resolve fears about healing, stop self-sabotage, and end flashbacks and nightmares. Clients become more grounded and self-aware, and less sensitive to stressful, triggering events. It helps them better understand their own internal world – equipping them to calm and comfort wounded parts when they do get triggered. Collectively these interventions can stabilize dissociative clients, but they can also be profoundly life changing, whether or not additional therapy interventions (like EMDR, Brainspotting, or advanced DNMS interventions) are used for deeper healing.

What’s in the Webinar

The webinar starts with an introduction to ego state theory, then details how to…

  •   quickly and effectively mobilize a team of vetted Resources
  •   establish a Special Safe Place (a fun place for wounded parts to hang out)
  •   identify therapy goals that can actually block processing
  •   set an effective therapy goal – free of blocks
  •   invite wounded parts forward
  •   start a dialogue with wounded parts
  •   attune, validate, and empathize with wounded parts
  •   build rapport with especially belligerent and oppositional parts
  •   give wounded parts missing information, and clear any misunderstandings
  •   connect wounded parts to a loving, supportive team of Resources
  •   orient wounded parts to present time
  •   enable wounded parts to see reality more clearly
  •   show wounded parts that the upsetting experience they seem to be reliving, is actually just a harmless recording

The webinar will illuminate the implications for treating trauma wounds versus attachment wounds. It will describe how these interventions track with Porges’ Polyvagal theory, Dan Siegel’s parenting advice, and Memory Reconsolidation Theory. Click here for a webinar topic outline and learning objectives.

Plus You Get a Second Bonus Webinar!

This webinar comes with a FREE three-month preview subscription to our self-help webinar: How to Calm Your Sudden Surges of Overwhelming Painful Emotions. Use it on yourself, review it for clients, or show it to clients in session. Clients who want one, can get their own personal subscription.

Webinar Presenter

Shirley Jean Schmidt, MA is a Licensed Professional Counselor, the founder of the DNMS Institute, and the author of two DNMS books. She has trained hundreds of clinicians in the DNMS model at regional, national, and international workshops and conferences since 2002. She moderates a 800-member DNMS professional listserv. She is a past president of the San Antonio Trauma & Dissociation Professional Study Group. For six years, she was an EMDRIA-Approved EMDR Consultant. She has published many articles about EMDR, ego state therapy, pain management, and the DNMS. She holds the patent on the TheraTapper™, a bilateral tactile stimulation device that has been sold worldwide to DNMS and EMDR therapists. She narrates the slide shows and is the therapist in all the demo videos.

Webinar Format

The webinar is prerecorded. It’s delivered on-line in 21 segments – 15 narrated slide shows and 6 video recordings of real sessions. Audio recordings of each segment are also provided. Most segments are under 30 minutes, for a total of 10 hours of viewing and assignments. Watch the slide shows and videos whenever you want, in whatever order you wish, as many times as you like. Start and stop wherever you like. The slide shows are colorful, animated and fun. The videotaped demo sessions are very high quality. It comes with a colorful 25-page handout you can download and print. This webinar is the first in a series*, but it is also a stand-alone training.

*Other webinars in the series will cover advanced DNMS interventions. Their release date is currently unknown.

You can watch the first 17 minutes of the webinar here:

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The regular webinar subscription cost is $265.00 (in US dollars). To subscribe you’ll register and log in with a username and password, then access the webinar from My Account and My Content on the menu bar. Later, log in again to get you back to the webinar.

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Frequently Asked Questions

If I subscribe to the webinar, how long will I have access to it?
There’s no time limit. Access it as long as you have an internet connection.

Is this material taught in a live training?
Click here to see if there is a live training or webinar of this material currently scheduled.

I’d like to watch this with my colleagues. Can we all get CEs for watching it?
No. You’re welcome to sit with colleagues to watch the webinar together, but we only authorize one CE Certificate per webinar subscriber.

May I share my username and password with colleagues so they can watch the webinar without me?
No. Sharing your username and password with anyone is not permitted, and may result in subscription termination.

May I share the webinar handout with my colleagues?
The handout is for the subscriber only. Distribution of the handout to others is not permitted, with one exception – the single-page Self-Soothing handout for clients may be printed and given to clients.

Do you offer a special clinic price or group rate?
As long as we are offering 40% off, we are not offering group discounts.

Can I get a copy of the webinar PowerPoint slides?
No, but the companion book, Ego State Therapy Interventions to Prepare Attachment-Wounded Adults for EMDR, provides a written reference for all the information in this webinar and much more.

Will you ever post an updated webinar handout?
Yes. From time to time we may update the handout. Subscribers should occasionally check for an update.

Can I get EMDRIA Credits for completing this webinar?
No, but there is an EMDR-Prep version of this webinar approved for EMDRIA Credits.

How do I get the CEs?
When you finish watching the webinar and filling out the on-line evaluation, you’ll be directed to a post-test. When you pass the post-test with 75% or more correct, you’ll be able to instantly download your certificate of completion. Check the Continuing Education Credit section below to verify you’re covered.

Is the test difficult?
Short T/F quizzes throughout the webinar focus attention on the most important concepts. So long as you can answer these quiz questions, you’ll have no problem passing the post-test. If you fail the post-test, you can take it again and again, until you pass it.

Are the interventions taught in the webinar evidence-based?
Click here for a list of peer-reviewed research studies that document the effectiveness of this approach.

Have more questions?
Email questions about webinar content to Shirley Jean at Email all other questions to

Demo Videos

Embedded in the webinar are videos of real sessions—some with Laura and some with Deb. The 2 long Laura videos are part of a 7-video series. All the videos in this series are available to watch. Read more here.

Post Webinar Support

Those who purchase the webinar may join the DNMS Discussion Group Listserve – a free forum for asking questions and getting support from Shirley Jean and other therapists. Individual and group consultation is available for a fee. Live demo webinars are also offered. Contact Shirley Jean at for details.

Target Audience

This webinar has been developed for Mental Health Professionals (Social Workers, Psychologists, LMFTs, etc.) who work with clients wounded in childhood. It contains Beginning, Intermediate, and Advanced Level content.

Continuing Education Credit

EMDRIA Credits

This webinar is NOT approved for EMDRIA Credits, but a version of it is. Click here to read about the EMDR-prep version of the webinar.

Professional CEs

This DNMS Institute training is cosponsored by the Institute on Violence, Abuse, and Trauma (IVAT), based in San Diego, CA.

Social Workers: The DNMS Institute, LLC, #1702, is approved as a provider for social work continuing education by the Association of Social Work Boards (ASWB), through the Approved Continuing Education (ACE) program. The DNMS Institute, LLC maintains responsibility for the program. ASWB Approval Period: 9/27/2019-9/27/2022. Click here to see if social workers in your state are covered. Social workers participating in this course will receive 10 continuing education clock hours.

Psychologists (except for New York): The Institute on Violence, Abuse, and Trauma (IVAT) is approved by the American Psychological Association (APA) to sponsor continuing education for psychologists. Psychologists will receive 10 hours of continuing education credit upon completing this program.

California Board of Behavioral Sciences (BBS) now accepts American Psychological Association continuing education credit for license renewal. LCSWs, LMFTs, LPCCs, and LEPs will receive 10 hours of continuing education credit upon completing this program.

Counselors: LPCs, LCPCs, MHCs, and LMHCs will receive 10 CEs in states where any scope-of-practice continuing education is accepted, or where continuing education from American Psychological Association or ASWB ACE providers is accepted. Policies vary from state to state and can change year to year. Please check your state licensing board rules to determine if you’re covered.

Marriage & Family Therapists: LMFTs will receive 10 CEs in states where any scope-of-practice continuing education is accepted, or where continuing education from American Psychological Association or ASWB ACE providers is accepted. Policies vary from state to state and can change year to year. Please check your state licensing board rules to determine if you’re covered.

Nurses (except for Iowa): IVAT is approved by the California Board of Registered Nurses to offer continuing education for California nurses (CEP #13737). As an approved provider of American Psychological Association CEs, IVAT programs are accepted by the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC). Nurses will receive 10 hours of continuing education credit upon completing this program.

Addictions Counselors: IVAT is approved by the California Consortium of Addiction Programs and Professionals (CCAPP) to sponsor continuing education for certified alcohol and drug abuse counselors (Provider #IS-03-499-0223). Addictions Counselors licensed in California will receive 10 hours of continuing education credit upon completing this program.

Grievance Policy

The DNMS Institute will make every attempt to resolve grievances in a fair manner. Subscribers who are unhappy about the content of the webinar, have technical issues watching the webinar, or have any other grievances, should contact us. Click here to read about our Grievance Policy & Procedure.

Accommodations for the Differently Abled

Subscribers who need special accommodations to watch the webinar, should call or email us at 503-515-3399 or

There is no known commercial support nor conflict of interest for this program.

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Marlene Steinberg, MD
Author, “The Stranger in the Mirror”
and “The Structured Clinical Interview
for Dissociative Disorders (SCID-D)”

“This webinar is an excellent resource for therapists working with clients who have experienced trauma and attachment wounds. This training is filled with practical techniques grounded in ego state theory for working compassionately with clients. Whether you are a mental health trainee or a more experienced professional, I would recommend this webinar.”

Jan Ewing, FAPS
Clinical Psychologist/Neuropsychologist

“I’m an experienced practitioner who has completed many ‘complex trauma’ trainings, but this is one of the best I have experienced. This model sits well with my usual approach but provides very welcome additional concepts and strategies that are already assisting me to be a more effective therapist, especially with my most complex DID clients who have early, severe, repetitive attachment wounds, as well as major physical traumas. I can highly recommend this training.”

Rev. Lynn James, LCPC
EMDRIA-Approved Consultant

“Over my 30 years of practice I’ve studied many approaches for treating adult clients with very significant childhood wounding. Aspects of each were helpful, but they all fell short. When I finally learned the DNMS interventions taught in this training, it changed everything. I’m now extremely confident I can help clients out of the “It’s still happening” trance that evokes flashbacks, anxiety, re-enactments, therapeutic impasses, regressive behaviors and feelings. These interventions give my clients enormous relief, which is very satisfying for me. The compassion and unconditional acceptance at the core of this model powerfully resonate with the values held by those who go into this profession. If I could only recommend one training to a colleague – whether newly trained or seasoned – it would absolutely be this webinar.”

Kimber R. Olson, LCSW
Clinical Director, Changing Tides Alaska

“This training was easy to understand, and a fabulous pace for beginners and intermediate level therapists, but as an experienced therapist and trainer there were still a number of gems that I took away from this workshop. I will use these techniques with my clients, including some on the dissociative spectrum, and believe it can be helpful for many. The techniques especially focused on and will be helpful for working with wounded parts of the self. As the director of a complex trauma and dissociation specialty clinic, I will recommend this training to my providers.”

Jean-Pierre Marceau, DPs
Psychologist, Montréal

“I want to tell everybody how useful the webinar has been to my practice. The interventions are powerful and transformative. I can now have radical acceptance of oppositional child parts, and it’s making a big difference. The quality of the webinar production is amazing. I highly recommend it.”

Marcia Herden, PsyD
EMDRIA-Approved Consultant

“This webinar provides critically necessary background, clarity, and tools to help clients struggling with a high degree of clinical dissociation. I learned new interventions to help clients access an emotionally stable and empowered adult self, and heal disowned wounded aspects of self. I highly recommend this training.”

Karen Gardner, LCSW
EMDRIA-Approved Consultant

“The interventions I learned in this webinar have given me the confidence and tools to successfully help my most dissociative clients. Clients report feeling supported and safe, and I’ve witnessed their lives permanently change. If you work with dissociative clients, take this training!”

Alicia Gyatso

“I love this webinar! It helped me become so much more effective with my most challenging, dissociative patients. It’s very clear and easy to follow. I like that it not only explains HOW to do the interventions – it also explains WHY they’re better than what most of us do. The videos are fantastic. They show exactly how to handle difficult moments. I was able to start using these new interventions right away. I’m now more confident when talking with angry or controlling child parts. I now know exactly what to do! Thank you Shirley Jean for this beautiful work! And special thanks to Laura, the demo subject, for sharing her work with us.”

Ilyssa Swartout, PsyD
EMDRIA-Approved Consultant

“A very comprehensive, inspiring training. Does an excellent job of organizing and presenting the difficult subject of ego state therapy. The model is a safe, compassionate, and thorough way to heal and meet the needs of wounded parts of self.”

Patty Evans, MA, LPC

“This webinar is exactly what I needed to enhance my ego state therapy skills. It’s already improved my practice with clients. Anyone working with wounded ego states should get this webinar.”

Mary Ann McGrath, LCSW

“I found the videos to be very helpful, in demonstrating the theory – powerful. They really helped me integrate the material.”

Rachel Nichols, LPC-S

“I believe this is a breakthrough therapy. Shirley Jean is a genius!”

Dana Groh, LCSW

“A wonderful training. The material is well organized and thorough. Loved the slides and video!”