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Introducing a NEW On-Demand Webinar

A DNMS Masterclass in Treating Complex Trauma

How to Prepare Dissociative,
Attachment-Wounded Clients for EMDR

16 CEs & 16 EMDRIA Credits

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Our most dysregulated, dissociative, attachment-wounded clients have wounded child parts that are stuck in the past. Because these child parts are easily triggered, they keep clients in a perpetual state of overwhelm—putting safe and effective EMDR out of reach. Therapists need a particular set of skills to be successful with these challenging clients. This webinar gently guides you to develop that skill set! It lays out a comprehensive, systematic roadmap for helping wounded child parts heal their attachment wounds in the preparation phase of EMDR. As more and more child parts heal, these clients become better able to regulate their emotions—eventually well enough for the EMDR trauma processing phase to be safe and effective.

The webinar starts by illuminating the important difference between foundational stability and foundational instability. It distinguishes trauma wounds from attachment wounds and explains why that distinction matters. It covers DNMS ego state therapy interventions that are highly effective at stabilizing dissociated child parts. This webinar shows you how to…

  • take an attachment history
  • quickly and effectively mobilize a team of vetted Resources
  • establish a Special Safe Place (a fun place for wounded parts to hang out)
  • identify therapy goals that can actually block processing
  • set effective therapy goals – free of blocks
  • invite wounded parts forward
  • start a dialogue with wounded parts
  • connect wounded parts to a loving, supportive team of Resources
  • encourage wounded parts to tell their story
  • attune, validate, and empathize with wounded parts
  • orient wounded parts to present time
  • help wounded parts understand how and why they get triggered
  • enable wounded parts to see reality more clearly
  • give wounded parts missing information
  • build rapport with especially oppositional parts
  • overcome processing blocks
  • attune to clients and their wounded parts

Collectively these interventions can stabilize dysregulated, dissociative, attachment-wounded child parts. As more and more child parts are stabilized, clients get triggered less often. When they do get triggered, the intensity is less, and recovery is faster. This improvement in emotion regulation can prepare clients for safe and effective EMDR trauma processing. This webinar aims to give you the skills and confidence you need to be successful with your most challenging clients. Click here to see how this webinar compares to similar trainings.

This self-paced webinar is 16 hours long, with 10 hours of narrated, animated slideshows and 6 hours of client-session videos. It’s delivered in 11 modules—with each divided into smaller sections, making it very easy to watch a little bit at a time. Click here to see the learning objectives and subjects covered in each module.

When you subscribe to this webinar you’ll get all the text from the PowerPoint presentation conveniently consolidated in the 108-page handout. You’ll also get online access to over 30 pages of checklists, worksheets, and the DNMS Quality of Attachment Interview Questionnaire. Answers to over 50 Frequently Asked Questions are sprinkled throughout the handout. You can join the free DNMS listserv for added support. And at any time you have the option to enroll in a small, interactive, online class. Click here for details.

Watch a 5-minute excerpt from Module 1

Webinar Presenter

Shirley Jean Schmidt, MA is a Licensed Professional Counselor, the founder of the DNMS Institute, and the author of two DNMS books. She has trained hundreds of clinicians in the DNMS model at regional, national, and international workshops and conferences since 2002. She moderates a 800-member DNMS professional listserv. She is a past president of the San Antonio Trauma & Dissociation Professional Study Group. For six years, she was an EMDRIA-Approved EMDR Consultant. She has published many articles about EMDR, ego state therapy, pain management, and the DNMS. She holds the patent on the TheraTapper™, a bilateral tactile stimulation device that has been sold worldwide to DNMS and EMDR therapists. She narrates the slideshows and is the therapist in all the demo videos.

Target Audience

This webinar contains beginning, intermediate, and advanced level content. It’s been developed for mental health professionals who are trained in EMDR and work with adults wounded in childhood. If you’re not EMDR-trained, click here to read about a version of this webinar for non-EMDR therapists.

Subscribe to the Webinar

The regular webinar subscription cost is $365US. This webinar will be available for a limited time at the introductory cost of $265US. (If you’ve already subscribed to our 10-hour webinar, you may be eligible for an additional discount. Email us for details at dnms@dnmsinstitute.com).

To subscribe, click on the “Subscribe Now!” button below. This will create an account for you. When you’re logged in with your username and password, you’ll be able to access the webinar from My Account and My Content on the menu bar.

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Frequently Asked Questions

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If I subscribe to the webinar, how long will I have access to it?

There’s no time limit. Access it as long as you have an internet connection.

How is this webinar different from DNMS on-demand webinars I already have?

This webinar is similar to our (now retired) 10-hour on-demand webinar: Ego State Therapy Interventions to Prepare Your Most Wounded, Dysregulated, and Dissociative Clients for EMDR. This new one is better at explaining concepts. Modules that cover background material, taking a history, stabilizing wounded parts, and overcoming processing blocks go into more detail. Click here to see what’s covered. There are many more videos of real client sessions. The handout contains every word in the webinar, plus answers to 50+ Frequently Asked Questions. In addition, a trove of worksheets, checklists, and a questionnaire come with the webinar. If you’re a current subscriber of a DNMS on-demand webinar, you can apply whatever you paid for the webinar you have towards a subscription for this new one. Contact us for details. dnms@dnmsinstitute.com.

How is this on-demand webinar different from the live DNMS webinar I took?

That would depend on which live webinar you took. If you recently took a 4-day webinar with Lynn James, Amy Blake, or Karen Gardner, this new on-demand webinar is very similar. But, it explains some concepts more clearly, and the sections that cover background material, taking a history, stabilizing wounded parts, and overcoming processing blocks, go into more detail.

How does the DNMS compare to Internal Family Systems (IFS)?

For a complete listing of the many fundamental differences, click here.

Is the DNMS different from other ego state/attachment EMDR treatments?

There are about a dozen similar models, like the Progressive Approach, Attachment-Informed EMDR, and Attachment-Focused EMDR. While the DNMS has areas of overlap with many of these approaches, there are fundamental differences. For a list of those differences, click here.

Can I take this webinar if I’m not trained in EMDR?

Yes, but there will be a version of this webinar for non-EMDR therapists available soon. When it’s ready, you’ll be able to read about it here. These two webinars are almost identical.

Is this material taught in a live training?

We teach this in live webinars too. To see if there’s a live webinar currently scheduled click here. If not, check back soon.

I’d like to watch this with my colleagues. Can we all get CEs for watching it?

No. Only the webinar subscriber can get CEs.

May I share my login info with colleagues so they can watch the webinar too?

No. If you share your username and password with anyone, your subscription will be canceled. But you can refer colleagues to our Free 1-Hour Introductory Webinar.

May I share the webinar handout and other documents with my colleagues?

No. Distribution of the handout, checklists, worksheets, and questionnaire is not permitted, with one exception. The single-page Self-Soothing handout for clients may be printed and given to clients.

Do you offer a special clinic price or group rate?

Yes. We can offer a quantity discount for your group or clinic. Please contact us for a group quote, at sjs@dnmsinstitute.com. Tell us how many are in your group.

Can I get a copy of the webinar PowerPoint slides?

No, but the 110-page handout has all the text from the slideshow. Also, the companion book, Ego State Therapy Interventions to Prepare Attachment-Wounded Adults for EMDR, provides a lot of the same information, but goes into more detail on some subjects.

Can I get EMDRIA Credits for completing this webinar?

Yes. This is approved for 16 EMDRIA Credits.

How do I get a CE certificate?

CEs are available for most US psychotherapists. Check the Continuing Education Credit section below to verify you’re covered. When you finish watching the webinar, you’ll fill out an on-line evaluation. Then you’ll be directed to a posttest. When you pass the posttest with 75% or more correct, you’ll be able to instantly download your certificate of completion.

Is the posttest difficult?

Once you’ve subscribed, you’ll be able to download and print out the posttest. As you go through the webinar, mark the correct answers on your printout. When it’s time to take the posttest, you’ll have all the answers ready to go. If you fail the posttest, you can take it again.

Are the interventions taught in the webinar evidence-based?

The DNMS is not officially an evidence-based therapy. But research conducted over the past three decades in ego state therapy, self-compassion, and resourcing support the effectiveness of DNMS interventions. Click here for a list of peer-reviewed research studies.

Have more questions?

Email Shirley Jean, at sjs@dnmsinstitute.com, questions about webinar content. Email all other questions to dnms@dnmsinstitute.com.

Continuing Education Credit

EMDRIA Credits

This webinar is approved for 16 EMDRIA Credits (#17008-DL30). (While this is NOT an EMDR training per se, it can help therapists prepare clients for EMDR.) Eligibility for EMDRIA Credits is restricted to those who have completed an EMDRIA-Approved Basic EMDR Training. Shirley Jean Schmidt (EC Provider #17008) maintains responsibility for this program and its content, in accordance with EMDRIA standards.

Professional CEs

This webinar is cosponsored by the Institute on Violence, Abuse, and Trauma (IVAT), based in San Diego, CA.

Psychologists (except for New York): The Institute on Violence, Abuse, and Trauma (IVAT) is approved by the American Psychological Association (APA) to sponsor continuing education for psychologists. Psychologists will receive 16 hours of continuing education credit upon completing this program.

California Board of Behavioral Sciences (BBS) now accepts American Psychological Association continuing education credit for license renewal. LCSWs, LMFTs, LPCCs, and LEPs will receive 16 hours of continuing education credit upon completing this program.

Counselors: LPCs, LCPCs, MHCs, and LMHCs will receive 16 CEs in states where any scope-of-practice continuing education is accepted, or where continuing education from American Psychological Association or ASWB ACE providers is accepted. Policies vary from state to state and can change year to year. Please check your state licensing board rules to determine if you’re covered.

Marriage & Family Therapists: LMFTs will receive 16 CEs in states where any scope-of-practice continuing education is accepted, or where continuing education from American Psychological Association or ASWB ACE providers is accepted. Policies vary from state to state and can change year to year. Please check your state licensing board rules to determine if you’re covered.

Nurses (except for Iowa): IVAT is approved by the California Board of Registered Nurses to offer continuing education for California nurses (CEP #13737). As an approved provider of American Psychological Association CEs, IVAT programs are accepted by the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC). Nurses will receive 16 hours of continuing education credit upon completing this program.

Addictions Counselors: IVAT is approved by the California Consortium of Addiction Programs and Professionals (CCAPP) to sponsor continuing education for certified alcohol and drug abuse counselors (Provider #IS-03-499-0223). Addictions Counselors licensed in California will receive 16 hours of continuing education credit upon completing this program.

Social Workers: DNMS Institute, LLC, #1702, is approved as an ACE provider to offer social work continuing education by the Association of Social Work Boards (ASWB) Approved Continuing Education (ACE) program. Regulatory boards are the final authority on courses accepted for continuing education credit. ACE provider approval period: 9/27/2022-9/27/2025. Social workers completing this course receive 16 clinical continuing education credits. Click here to see if social workers in your state are covered.

Grievance Policy

The DNMS Institute will make every attempt to resolve grievances in a fair manner. Subscribers who are unhappy about the content of the webinar, have technical issues watching the webinar, or have any other grievances, should contact us. Click here to read about our Grievance Policy & Procedure.

Accommodations for the Differently Abled

Subscribers who need special accommodations to watch the webinar, should call or email us at 503-515-3399 or dnms@dnmsinstitute.com.

There is no known commercial support nor conflict of interest for this program.

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Lynn James, LCPC
EMDRIA-Approved Consultant
and EMDR Trainer

“The DNMS is the most thorough, effective, compassionate therapy I’ve encountered in my 30+ years as a trauma specialist. This webinar is not only clinically excellent, it’s also a work of art. Beautiful illustrations enhance the teaching. The metaphors and scripts are immediately useful and highly effective. Many EMDR clinicians I consult with feel lost when wounded parts block processing or experience destabilizing triggers. This webinar provides an effective roadmap for navigating these challenges. I highly recommend it.”

Jill Hosey, LICSW
EMDRIA-Approved Consultant
and EMDR Trainer

“Thank you so much Shirley Jean for your incredible work creating the DNMS. I love that it offers a myriad of tools and ideas to support the stabilization of clients with histories of emotional deprivation, neglect, and trauma. The combination of lecture, video demos, and role plays helps clinicians synthesize the theory and content. The accompanying scripts and metaphors helps operationalize the theory and content into practice. I strongly recommend the integration of DNMS into any EMDR therapist’s toolbox!”

Alicia Beltran, LCPC, LPC
Certified EMDR Therapist

“I’m an experienced EMDR therapist. I believe this DNMS webinar should be an essential training for all EMDR therapists. All EMDR therapists will encounter wounded parts within their client’s system as Shirley Jean describes in the webinar. This training has not only improved my ability to stabilize wounded parts before trauma reprocessing, but trauma reprocessing has become more manageable too. I highly recommend this training for all EMDR therapists.”

Laura Ott, LCSW, PMH-C
Certified EMDR Therapist

“​This ​webinar is a M​ASTERCLASS in treating attachment wounds with ego state therapy​. It’s give me a newfound confidence to help clients have the most transformative EMDR healing experience.”

Luna Medina-Wolf, LMHC
EMDRIA-Approved Consultant

“I am an EMDR facilitator who’s been doing ego state work for years. The value of this ego state therapy when working with complex cases is immense. I strongly recommend this webinar.”

Lisa Prefontaine, LMHC
EMDRIA-Approved Consultant
and EMDR Trainer

“As an experienced EMDR clinician I’ve seen an increasing need for ego state stabilization interventions to prepare clients for trauma processing. This DNMS webinar thoughtfully and thoroughly provides interventions to do that, with lots of examples from real client videos. Shirley Jean excels at modeling these stabilization interventions with ease and expertise–proving that healing attachment wounds is possible even before trauma processing begins.”

Ryan Gorman, RN, PMHNP
Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner

“I’ve been using the DNMS and EMDR for over 10 years. Still, I found the webinar content to be invaluable. Interventions contained in each module are elegant in their precision, which is notable in light of the subject complexity. As a result of the webinar I’m now better able to respond to confusing or unpredictable aspects of ego-state work. Using the provided scripts significantly improved my effectiveness. This webinar is an essential resource for any provider working with clients motivated to heal from childhood attachment wounds.”

Danielle Jenkins, LCSW-S
Certified EMDR Therapist

“Although I have an intermediate level of experience, I often find myself stuck when complex clients show up with different wounding parts blocking our ability to do EMDR. This webinar taught me how to work with clients with avoidant parts of self and parts who struggle to look at painful memories. I love how user friendly the webinar is and the freedom to complete it at my own pace. I encourage anyone who wants a better understanding of parts of self to take this training.”

Naomi Rook, MA, LPC

“I am a newly licensed therapist. The webinar helped me better understand the complexities of working with wounded parts. It’s increased my confidence and I’m already noticing breakthroughs with some severely wounded clients. The webinar includes a lot of realistic scenarios and video demonstrations that are especially helpful! I can recommend this webinar to anyone interested in helping their adult clients heal from childhood attachment wounds.”

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